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Don't have much free time now, So I just did this very quickly.

Based on another motivational poster I saw where only the picture to the right was included.

So yeah , sure they were atheists:roll:
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2015
Aaaand by the same strong logic the Nazis then converted to Islam www.libertyvox.com/img/photos/…
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Arctica128 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
Being an Atheist means not to belief in anything but Hitler obviously believed in "something" (god or whatever) which allowed him/gave him the justice to kill millions of people. 
Calling Nazis  Atheists is just as wrong as calling atheism a religion. 
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nicholasweed Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015
The Nazis had a Religion of the Blood.  They thought they were the Supermen who moved from Atlantis, to Tibet, and than to Germany.  They were the Aryan Sun People with the Golden Hair.  They had their own religion.  Hitler said, "The old beliefs will be brought back to honor again.  The whole secret knowledge of nature, of the divine, of the shapeless, the demonic. We will wash off the Christian veneer, and bring out a religion particular to our race."
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Student Writer
Those Catholic priests were German citizens before Hitler initiated the Holocaust. It's a well-know fact that the Nazis targeted the Catholic Church.
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nnnn11112 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
No, OH MY GOD NO,
You couldn't be more wrong,
PROVE THIS TO ME
FOR NAZI'S SUPPORTED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
You couldn't be more wrong.
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Student Writer
Hitler personally expressed hatred for the Church and there are plenty of Catholic martyrs of the Holocaust. Venerable Pius IX spoke out against Hitler's regime and many Catholic newspapers which published his criticisms suffered for it.
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2014
Condescending reply when you can't crack someone? THEN BLOCKING THEM. Its almost like you don't want to argue. I wonder why that would ever be. 

This post is going to be painfully long and have a great deal of effort put in. Something seem to think I am not worthy of.

Nazi Germany didn't have strong ties with Germany? Nazi Germany = Germany. Next!

I meant to to type Papacy, I must of spelled it wrong and auto correct did something. My mistake.

They were still based on Christianity or rather Christian values. Also, wiki? Really? Next!

Christian values? Really? In what way? I guess you can maybe make the case that Homosexuality is anti-christian and that the nazi's were against that, but saying that the Nazi ideology is based on Christian values is, well just fucking silly. Christian values can be defined as what is written out in the ten commandments and the teachings of Jesus. The ten commandments are having no other gods, do make idols of God, do not misuse the name of God, keep the Sabbath holy, honor your family, do not KILL, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not lie, do not covet.  Now I'm pretty sure the Nazi's had a habit of killing quite a few people. So we can say that they already felt it okay to ignore at least one of the commandments.

Jesus's teachings can basically be summed up as Love everybody, forgive everybody, non violence, ect ect. Nazi's are ignoring basically all of this so we can say that if they are Christians, they conveniently ignore the teachings of the prophet of the Religion.

While I will concede that many Nazi's may have called themselves Christian, though the higher ups have called this into question. Whether they are actually Christians an answer, and its a resounding NO. 

To put this in perspective, it would be like me calling myself a communist, except that I believe in Private property and the free market. Rejection of those two things are CENTRAL to communism, now I can say I am a Communist, but does that make me one? No, because I don't practice my self professed belief. 

Also this isn't 2,006, you can check the citations of Wikipedia, so it is a fairly reliable source.

Hey, that's what you do with your cherry picking. Next!

There is no argument in this, except a failed attempt to be funny or condescending. 

I don't trust anyone... new speak? Read 1984, it's a very good book on the subject. Next!

I have never read 1984, but I know what its about. Fahrenheit 451 is also a good one.  Again, I fail to see an argument here. 

Hey, I just do what you do. It's the media's fault school shooting happens each 5th day in the US? Or is it because forced school prayers have been banned? I keep forgetting your poor Christian excuses. Anyway, all your god-loving-morons could have... I dunno... just refused? But they willingly and joyfully joined Hitler and killed Jews and homosexuals in the millions, such a display of Christian love! Just like the inquisitions, the crusades etc. Next!

Let me start off by saying that right off the bat, you make false assumptions about me. Firstly, I am not a Christian. I am a DEIST.  Secondly, that I am a bible thumping republican. I am not, I'm a Libertarian who thinks that Church and State need to be distanced as far as possible from each other.  Going back to my response to your second statement on my opinion of people following behind him, regardless what they call themselves, if their actions do not match up with what they profess to believe they are not Christians.  On the Inquisition the same logic applies. Same with the Crusades. Though we do need to take into account geopolitics into that too. As, you know the Byzantine emperor did ask the Vatican for help, and the Vatican sent it. 

With everything you have said, and your barrage of petty insults and condescending tone, I have come to the conclusion that you are not only not right, you aren't even wrong. Your definitions on what it means to belong to a philosophy are so fundamentally flawed that your arguments cannot even be considered incorrect. The entirety of your debate lies on Logical fallacy and there have been very few points that you have made that even resembled rational thought. I award you no points. And may God have Mercy on your soul.


~With sincerity, A deist :)
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tekhiun Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014
wtf
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
Not meant for you. 
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NikitaTarsov Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Catholics and Nazis did an silent agreement - church supports the NSDAP and the Nazis let the church remain in social relevance. That the Nazis deprive and kill Jews was just an additional good the curch-guys are happy about. 

To that Paganism/Nordic thing - Most normal soldiers and people under the regime are christians(and no Himmler, Göbels or Hitler could have change that), just a few megalomaniacs on the top and in the SS follow a nonspecific way of occultism, whatever is shiny and underline the own invincibility was good enough. 

But the nordic religions of the Germanen(Germans call themselves not Germans(what originally means Spear-people) than Deutsche) and Kelten arenīt extinguished by christianity rather than get involved. Most christian rites came from this folks. Christmas and Halloween are just very popular examples. In Germany ther is a famous monastery, people still make a pilgrimage to this place for heath - thatīs real funny cause this place has this holy relevance for over 2000 years, and the bllod sacrifice altar still remain unchanged xD
Even christians can have humor i think.....

This involving came from the need to spread the religion as well as the need of some conquesting (Scandinavian=most Viking)kings, who brought the religion to the Germanen and Kelten. So the rites and religion become one, the difference is just a fine line, declared by Vatican City to keep the might and influence. 
Think.....that could be interesting.....maybe.
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tekhiun Featured By Owner May 15, 2014
It always makes me giggle when I see christians  saying that christmas is about christ because of the name. You because on nordic countries christmas is called Yul or Jul  depending on the country , which clearly comes from the Yule festivals.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
Christianity is known for stealing pagan holidays.
-with love from an Agnostic 
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NikitaTarsov Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Good to have that religion - better to know where these simple and/or radical people are to find. 
No - i wouldnīt blame that religion for its followers, where many people are, there are some who corrupt the whole idea and create ther own kingdom on this carved ruin. Nothing else with all other religions(or soccer-clubs, for example). 

All days of the week in western civilisation are named from this old roots, as well as the monthīs names and so much more. Itīs a piece of luck that i donīt have that much hardcore-christians around me to need such arguments to defend against the most stupid convertists. Most German christians are more silent and live ther religion for ther own. Thatīs okay i think, cause religion, as a institution, was first created to make rules who allow bigger societys than tribes to stay stabile and interact - a cheers to all who remember on this, religios people as well as atheists.
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MyLittleTripod Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Weren't the Nazi's eventually going to phase out Christianity in favor of ancient German/Nordic Paganism?
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
What? Hitler wanted to make Nazi Germany into a unified Catholic church, he wasn't a fan of Protestants. 
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014
I thought it was Atheism. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
That makes no sense... Hitler tried to apply Christianity to Nazism, and Hitler even send Atheists to the death camps... the Nazis were a Christian movement after all.
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
Considering the gave Catholic priests and Jehovah's Wittness's the same treatment, something tells me that Nazism was not a christian movement. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014
uhm... you do know that Muslims keep killing Muslims, right? So why should that make it impossible for Christians to kill Catholics and Jehovah's Wittness's? Maybe those guys you mentioned tried to stand against Nazism? You have to understand the context. But maybe you could provide some sources for these claims of yours?
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MyLittleTripod Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
According to wikipedia, some Nazi Party Members like Himmler were occultist pagans, while others like Martin Bormann and Joseph Gobbels were militant Atheists.
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Well I've been wrong before. 
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
One of Hitler's ultimate goals was the complete destruction of religion in Nazi Germany.  The Catholic Church found its self as a target very early in the Nazi Regime.

However there were some Nazi Catholics in Germany, but that was mostly because if you didn't go with the nazi party you were shot, but the way the nazis viewed the Catholic Church was simmialr to how humans view the Tau in Warhammer, something that needed to be destroyed at some point i the future, they've just got bigger problems at the moment.

how about doing research next time before you make a claim. 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic…
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
You seriously need to read some history books... Hitler wanted Nazi Germany to be Catholic... heck, he even tried to make Jesus into a white man, rather than a Jew! So maybe it wasn't what you would consider "true" Christianity, but he sure as hell wanted a religious, Catholic nation.
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
Interesting, because in all of the AP world history books I've written and all the primary sources I've found, I have not heard any mention of Germany wanting to be catholic, except from propaganda. 

Firstly it wouldn't make sense for Hitler to want Germany to be catholic considering it was a PRIMARY protestant Nation, and it was so ever since Prussia united Germany. 

Secondly, this completely ignores the crimes he did against the Catholic church. Catholic Leaders actively renounced Nazism, and Catholic regions voted very reliably against the Nazi's.

Thirdly, Hitler and Himmler's goal was to de-Christianize Germany, not make it Catholic. catholiceducation.org/articles…



Pick up a real History book and drop the Fedora. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014
Maybe none of your history book thought it was an interesting topic to cover? Sadly I cannot recall where I read it, but it would make sense when you consider the strong ties with Italy, the Vatican and Hitler's own Catholic beliefs, but I could be wrong. But it wouldn't make much sense that Hitler would want Jesus to be a white guy... then he could just leave Jesus be if he didn't care... something just doesn't add up to your (or your history books) claims. 

This is the dumbest thing to bring up... don't you know how politics work? Hitler just got rid of all opposition, that being Christians or not. I know Hitler used democracy to get himself to power. Everyone knows this (or at least I hope they do), so I'm not really seeing the point you're trying to make with that... 

"catholiceducation"? Surely they wouldn't be biased... but even if that was true, I don't see how this excuse the millions of Christians doing Hitler's work. Or do you believe that the 1,2% of German Atheists somehow managed to control most of EU and have millions of Atheist soldiers at their command?

I don't a Fedora, maybe I could borrow yours?
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014
Nazi Germany did not have strong ties with Germany or Benito's Fascist state. In fact the Italian states always had a rocky relationship with the Papal states, considering that they were one of the big targets during the Unification wars of Italy. Oh and the Vatican actively defied the Nazis. I suppose I could also bring up the Catholic Clergy in Poland and Austria that were executed, the church Burning and what not. 

Hitler's own religious views are a subject of great debate. Even has its own Wiki article, with many references to him hold Christianity with absolute disdain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiou…

Changing a religion to fit your own political purposes? Quaint. 

Trust me, I know how politics works, and I know that there's a difference between bastardizing something for political goals and actually being something. Its like calling the Tea Party a Libertarian movement. The point I was trying to bring up was that it doesn't make sense for him to get behind a minority. He was staving off the church for a period of time until he felt he could take it out. He was already dealing with Commies and the Allies at this time. 

Ah holding every person accountable for Hitler's and Himmler's actions :D Given the statistics, yes millions of Christians joined the Whermact and the SS and did unspeakable things. Some may of even done it in the name of God. My Response? The Perpetrators, Hitler and Himmler, have the most blame, the other's can have their own, but still it is minuscule in comparison to the millions that those two burned. 

Sorry I only have Ushanka's on hand at the moment. Care to wait for me to have a dinner party or something? I don't have Fedoras unless the note says Business casual. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2014
Ah, I had completely forgotten about you ^^ so what are you saying this time, will probably be laughable <3

Nazi Germany didn't have strong ties with Germany? Nazi Germany = Germany. Next!

They were still based on Christianity or rather Christian values. Also, wiki? Really? Next!

Hey, that's what you do with your cherry picking. Next!

I don't trust anyone... new speak? Read 1984, it's a very good book on the subject. Next!

Hey, I just do what you do. It's the media's fault school shooting happens each 5th day in the US? Or is it because forced school prayers have been banned? I keep forgetting your poor Christian excuses. Anyway, all your god-loving-morons could have... I dunno... just refused? But they willingly and joyfully joined Hitler and killed Jews and homosexuals in the millions, such a display of Christian love! Just like the inquisitions, the crusades etc. Next!

I don't like wearing hats, they mess with my epic win hair style. I love being bold! I like my pussy as I like my head, smooth...
-with love from an Agnostic 
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014
The Nazi were right about one thing then...
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014
Yes, because slaughtering millions (possibly billions) of people based on their principals is totally okay provided its for the goal of making a completely a-religious state. 


One of the biggest things I hear out of atheists is that they don't like beliefs getting thrust on them, and rightfully so, but right now you are sounding equally as bigoted by saying that the very existence of religion bothers you SO MUCH that you approve of using Hitler's methods to exterminate it. Is that not THE ULTIMATE method of thrusting beliefs on someone to do it.


And by the way, I'm a deist.  
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
I never said their method were good, I said that I thought they were right about their idea of creating state were religions are abolished; Contrary to what you may think, it doesn't necessarily mean "KILL ALL BELIEVER!!!!".

Secondly, why should I care about the fact that you are a Deist? Is it supposed to make me feel bad about saying such a thing to a religious person? I'm giving my opinion, not an ethical speech to please the people (One of the many proof I would be a bad politician...).
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Every man woman and child has the right to decide what to believe, and annihilating it for the purpose of annihilating is wrong regardless. States do not need to abolish religion to get rid of it, case and point Sweden, and two that was the method they were using I apologize for assuming that since you thought the Nazi's were correct in wanting to destroy religion that I took you for a bigot. And you're right it doesn't mean that until someone decided that they will not comply.


I was getting that out of the way so you don't try and use ad homien attacks in the so I don't need to waste time addressing them, and also a deist is an a-religious person. 
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Isn't Deism the belief that god exist without the need of an organised religion?
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Deism is belief in any sort of higher power without religion, which is an a-religious philosophy. 
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
The very concept of Divinity is stupid to me, but, after all, I'm an anthropocentrist, so it kinda make sense that I hate the idea of something superior to humanity...
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
While I usually find atheists and their supporters spiteful and petulant, this post is actually kinder toward German Christians of that era than it needs to be.

After googling to check the veracity of this deviation, all I can say is mein Gott im Himmel, aber nicht in Deutschland.
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014   General Artist
I don't think such general things as, "the nazis were atheists" or "the nazis were chri$$tians" can be said at all...
I think it CAN be said though, that priests, and especially catholic ones, are quite notorious for accepting any kind of authority whatsoever... :shrug:
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
Well, the vast majority of Nazis were Christians, this an irrefutable fact.
As for why the Nazis and the Vatican became such good buddies where out of belief, shared idealism or necessity? I have no clue.
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tekhiun Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
I agree, also migraine attack.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Hitler, Himmler and numerous chief advisers were atheist. Churches were even forced to swap out pictures of Jesus with pictures of Adolph.

Many Nazis of note were atheists, but that's not an indictment against atheists any more than saying that because Chavez and Castro were Christian, that's an indictment against Christianity.

I disagree with Atheism, but anyone who tries to equate Atheism to Nazism is being intellectually dishonest.
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hardlyalive Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
And where is your proof of Hitler being an Atheist?

Many? You mean less than 90%+? You might want to look up what the word "many" means... it looks like you don't quite understand it.

I agree, Nazism is an equate to Christianity. And anyone who says otherwise is being intellectually dishonest. 
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tekhiun Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
The only thing you can say for certain about hitler religious beliefs is that he was at least a deist, however  this is also open to discussion and we will possibly never know for sure as  he was inclined to propaganda of several sorts and we will often find conflicting statements about what he believed and what he condemmed.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
I can't reply to Zucca because I blocked him after spamming me with various dumb shit, so I'll reply to you instead and say this man is seriously delusional and belief that he somehow knows for a fact that Hitler is an Atheist, even though he don't. Just like he for a fact knows that God is real...  you know, without any evidence whatsoever *facepalm*
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
At any rate, point still stands that using a handful of psychos as an indictment of the whole demographic exhibits deep foolishness.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
In response to the weirdo using the Twilight Sparkle avatar who blocked me right after these asinine comments:

Right. Sure.

That's me.

The supporter of Israel, the guy who loves Jewish culture, the fellow who listened to the holocaust project...

No bigger denier indeed. >_>

You accuse religion of atrocity while defending a religion. Nice.

Without knowing a thing about me, without understanding jack, you presume a great deal. In fact, I'm willing to bet you're actually just that little blowhard who got his bullcrap deviation kicked out of ControversyInc's gallery.
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hardlyalive Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
Oh, you're properly a Holocaust denier, I'm right? Mister Zucca.
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hardlyalive Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
So all those Christians that killed Jews in the millions at the Death Camps are in the okay? I'm just trying to understand your broken and evil logic here. I'm so glad I'm not a religious man... You, Zucca, you're an evil man who use God to justify genocide.
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
Are you implying that 0% of Nazis were atheist because that's a pretty big claim. I'm sure there were some Atheist Nazis
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